Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies
The following discussions are requested to have community-wide attention:
|Should the text under Cathy Newman § Jordan Peterson interview be merged into the section on her Channel 4 News career? —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 23:08, 20 July 2018 (UTC)|
|Should the opening sentence describe Musk as:|
|Copy and pasted from above:|
version 1: Iquilla said that some items of clothing were missing from Asha's bedroom, including blue jeans with a red stripe, a long-sleeved, white nylon shirt, a red vest trimmed in black, black overalls with Tweety Bird on them, and a black and white long-sleeved shirt."
|Shall we add one or both of the paragraphs below to the "personal life" section? If you would like changes please say so, of course. Jytdog (talk) 22:56, 16 July 2018 (UTC)|
|Per this RFC above, should the wording of the sentence about Trump's racially charged comments not use the term "perceived" and simply state that the statements were racially charged?|
Specifically, something like:
|Should the second paragraph of the lead be updated as follows?|
This streamlines some wording, updates the ongoing nature of the false and controversial remarks, and keeps the material in chronological order.
(Note: The above proposal does not preclude the additional wording proposed in the above RfC.)
Please indicate whether you support or oppose the proposed change to the wording (or very similar). If you wish to propose different wording, please start a separate RfC. Thank you. - MrX 🖋 18:26, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
|Should the second paragraph of the lead include a sentence summarizing Trump's history of racially charged comments and racially motivated actions?|
Specifically, something like:
Please indicate whether you support or oppose this wording (or very similar) being added to the lead. If you wish to propose different wording, please start a separate RfC. Thank you.- MrX 🖋 18:00, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
|Arising from a brief discussion on the Wikiproject talk page, I propose that we add to the end of the paragraph in the Plot section, which currently finishes "..avoid minutiae like dialogue, scene-by-scene breakdowns, individual jokes, and technical detail" the following wording, which is the same as that currently agreed within WP:MOSTV: ", as well as any information that belongs in other sections, such as actors' names." MapReader (talk) 07:08, 14 July 2018 (UTC)|
|Shahanshah (lit. the king of kings) is a title that some Shahs (kings) of Iran used and some did not.|
The question is:
|Based on your interpretation of Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biography#Context should the lead sentence of Spanish biographies provide the person's legal citizenship, Spanish, or their regional identity (e.g. Catalan, Basque) if there are sources to infer that the person places more importance on their regional identity?|
The interpretation of the above policy is causing disputes on numerous articles. A recent Rfc at Talk:Carles Puigdemont dealt with this issue but as it related specifically to that article there is general consensus here that we need a broad Rfc so that we can settle the issue. Please indicate your preference below.--Obi2canibe (talk) 22:36, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
|The "In wrestling" section has been a standard part of professional wrestling biographies for over a decade. It covers mostly character information in a bulleted list format. On May 24, 2018, an editor raised an issue with the section's vague heading to WikiProject Professional wrestling (see WT:PW#In wrestling). The next day, renaming the heading to "Professional wrestling highlights" and adjusting "Championships and accomplishments" into a subsection beneath it was proposed. On June 3, it was considered to have reached consensus after the 5 participants agreed unanimously. In the weeks that followed, a few editors disapproved of the new heading, as well as "Championships and accomplishments" being turned into a subsection. On June 24, clarification of which heading to go forward with was requested, where an additional option to remove the section entirely was proposed. On June 28, the discussion was closed after 10 editors participated, with an "overwhelming consensus" to remove the section but rework any content deemed significant into prose, potentially into a "Professional wrestling persona" section (see WT:PW#Trying to gain clarity (closed)). The changes were immediately enacted into hundreds of articles, causing news of the changes to be spread onto online professional wrestling communities. Many new editors voiced frustration over the removal, with some reverting the changes.|
Below is the style recommendations for this section, taken from WikiProject Professional wrestling prior to its removal:
This proposal seeks to remove the "In wrestling" section, with the possibility of any of its content that is deemed significant to be contextualized in prose. Much of the information contained within this section would be lost. The content most likely to be reworked is certain Finishing moves, Nicknames and Wrestlers trained. As it stands, Managers are already expected to be covered in prose, primarily in the "Professional wrestling career" section. If necessary, reworked content can be placed within the existing "Professional wrestling persona" section (see WP:PW/SG#Professional wrestling persona).
Below are diffs from various articles, showing before the section's removal, after the removal, and some with content reworked to prose:
Proposal: Should we adopt a default approach of omitting the bulleted list "In wrestling" section, in favor of its notable content being contextualized in prose when appropriate? Prefall 14:53, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
|Should the lead include the following sentence?|
|Should the "trial" parameter be added to the template?|
|Should the Merelli source be used in this article? Is it a political attack by proxy or an accurate analysis? Should this viewpoint have a prominent place in the lede?|
|There's been recent coverage of the subject regarding an SEC lawsuit. This lawsuit was consented to by the subject without admitting to or denying anything. Is there a consensus here? The proposed edits can be seen in recent edits by me, user:Anon1-3483579, that were removed by user:Scope creep ( 15:34, 23 May 2018 ). Should this article mention the SEC lawsuit on May 10, 2018? RfC relisted by Cunard (talk) at 00:35, 2 July 2018 (UTC)|
|A discussion in 2015 had a couple of editors agreeing that the opening sentence of the article should be, "Natalie Portman [...] is an actress, film producer and director with dual Israeli and American citizenship." My preferred version would simply state "Natalie Portman [...] is an Israeli-American actress, film producer and director." I'm no expert in this matter and would like to have a vote about which version is most appropriate. Cheers! --Krimuk2.0 (talk) 14:26, 1 July 2018 (UTC)|
|There's a dispute on the background of Yusuf, should it be Arab, Somali, or Neither? Magherbin (talk) 09:34, 29 June 2018 (UTC)|
|This section presently says:|
This is very vague, and seems to cause disputes. As with whether to capitalize a preposition in a proper name, we should consider providing an arbitrary cut-off.
Someone did so, with this:
But someone else reverted it, on the simple basis "no consensus". So, let's have the discussion.
|An earlier version, I think, had addressed this, but it's been lost in the shuffle over the years. The simplest approach is probably this:|
Rationale: This would better reflect contemporary usage, both off-site and (among those who don't read much MoS) on-site. It would help us avoid dreadful "capitalization forests" like: According to Clovis Wildcats Senior Player Development Advisor and Team B Head Training Coach Sam Uskilith .... It will also encourage use of lowercase for trivial titles: During the robbery, night-shift assistant manager Pat Strelicz was .... It will also be a readability boon (excessive capitalization slows reading and decreases comprehensibility).
|Is it appropriate to include categories describing Peter Thiel as a New Zealander? MaxBrowne2 (talk) 02:29, 19 May 2018 (UTC)|